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unidentified conversation first Laureen

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is going to provide us with just a brief

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recap of episode 2 you have unidentified

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Maureen sure so episode 2 you know well

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I should say first episode one you know

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set the stage for this 2004 Nimitz UFO

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encounter known as the Tic Tac UFO an

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episode two primarily focused on the

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radar technicians I would say we were

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introduced to Kevin day who was a senior

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radar technician on the USS Princeton

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and then also Gary Voorhees who was also

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a technician and they did the big reveal

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even though you know this has been in

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the the news already that this was not a

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singular event of one tic-tac it was a

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whole box of Tic Tacs

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so to speak good and and that it was an

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event that occurred over four days a

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period of four days so Kevin Day claims

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that he was first spotted a bunch of

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these objects on his radar screen for

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four days he was watching them and they

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were moving at weird speeds kind of in

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formation and then he'd start to see

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some erratic behavior finally he

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convinced his superior officer hey man

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we we should intercept these let's

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intercept one of these and they got a

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little excited and so they they then

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scramble the Jets they f-18 fighter jets

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to and that's as we know from episode

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one we reviewed the pilot testimony that

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they spotted this object hovering over a

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disturbance in the water so this other

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testimony from these radar technicians

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different perspective different foremost

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sighting then we have we learned that it

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was also spotted on sonar that an object

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to dive into the water and that was

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going over 70 knots underwater near a

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nuclear submarine so and that's

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definitely double

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the speed of a any known underwater

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craft we have and I think that I mean

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it's it's interesting so we if we get

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all these different perspectives and

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we're getting a more complete picture of

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what happened in the whole stress of the

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episode to was were revealing a bit of

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government cover-up so you have Kevin

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day who says that all of the radar

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information disappeared he can't find

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any communication from that day which

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that's not something that would normally

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happen this stuff is logged and kept for

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future reference and he doesn't know

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what happened to it

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said you know I don't know why I don't

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know where and then we meet Gary who

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says that mysterious helicopter came and

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told him to destroy all the data so this

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is the reveal of like oh the

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government's trying to cover something

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up here

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we don't know who it was we don't know

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where it was taken

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some people have doubted this guy's

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testimony I know but this is a big that

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it's supposed to be the big reveal you

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know that these objects are doing

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something weird near Catalina Island

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that's where they disappeared and so

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we've got Lu Elizondo who goes to

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Catalina Island and discovers while not

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discovers they're known military bunkers

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and activity going on in that area so

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we're starting to get a bigger picture

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of this one specific event and they've

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investigations into it that that a tip

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was looking into and now they're trying

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to figure out whether these objects are

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hostile if they're from you know in

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other countries advanced military like

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how did this technology happen what are

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these things they are I mean you would

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think a threat if they are hostile that

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hostile were screwed so yeah so that's

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kind of where we're at now we're leading

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up to going to investigate the latitude

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and longitude that Kevin day provided

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the

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team with which is an underwater we see

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the preview that they're gonna go out on

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a ship and investigate these areas I

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mean this is obviously like typical of

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this type of show and also I will say

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one more thing sorry I'm going on a

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tangent we do get one little debunking

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thing in terms of they were I shouldn't

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say debunking but they were able to rule

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out NASA was testing X 43 which is an X

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was an experimental unmanned hypersonic

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aircraft but the top speed of this

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object or this the unmanned craft was

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only over a 7,000 miles per hour when we

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hear from Kevin day he estimates the

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speed of these objects they were

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dropping mass velocity at speeds upwards

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of 24,000 miles per hour so nothing we

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know can go that fast so we have these

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really super the mysteries widening the

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objects there's more now he said that

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maybe there were hundreds or a hundred I

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should say not hundreds so yeah that's

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where we left off we're still just doing

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this little investigation with them on

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this one events though it was raining

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UFOs yeah it was an interesting thing to

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hear him say and that's just kind of

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mind-boggling to think about and it was

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gonna cool when it wasn't Lou was it no

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I think it was Chris melon who asked him

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or was it Lou who asked him to draw on

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the paper what he saw that was blue oh

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that was yeah so when Lou did that and

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just seeing all these UFOs and when he

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described that he said it was you know

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hundreds and it was raining UFOs yeah

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hey it's quite a picture in your mind

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pretty bizarre so the introduction to

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Kevin day this is really cool and

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anybody following this story closely has

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probably heard of Kevin day before and

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Shane and I got to meet Kevin in

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Laughlin at the UFO Megacon recently and

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we got to see his presentation too

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when he was talking on stage and you

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really got to get a sense of the emotion

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that he still has when he tells the

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story and that came out a little

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bitte on the episode of unidentified

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machine what did you make of Kevin when

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you met him personally yeah I thought it

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was a very genuine guy he was definitely

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not a UFO person at all just probably

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nothing had ever given any thought to

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but you know over a beer it was telling

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us basically that you know this this was

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a life-changing event for him and many

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people and you know it had a negative

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impact on their life and they dealt with

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things like depression and you know just

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it was a very upsetting thing and you

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know course with you know the typical

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ridicule that comes with it and all that

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can understand how that has an effect on

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people so however at the same time I

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just found him to be very credible very

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factual you know super knowledgeable and

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you know reasonable a reasonable guy you

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know he you know he articulated his his

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case well and his feelings on the matter

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well and you know Gary was there as well

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we were also were able to meet Gary and

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a couple of the other guys so yeah I

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think as far as witnesses goes you know

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he's he's a strong one yeah I agree

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and what did you think of the episode

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overall Shane I mean Kevin was a big

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focus of it but what did you think of

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the additions that this episode added to

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the overall nimitz case yeah I think

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like Maureen pointed out you know the

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comments that there was like a hundred

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of these think that squares with one of

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the videos we saw where you know the

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commentary of the pilot was whoa you

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know look at all of them kind of a thing

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so you know multiple and like you

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mentioned to where we were aware it

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wasn't just a singular object but that

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you know kind of paints a picture a

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little clearer and I thought the episode

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was more kind of a traditional you know

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investigative type operation I mean they

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showed you know they they kind of

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brainstormed in the office and they

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identified people and leads and then

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they went out you know actually into the

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field and they interviewed people and

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you know they had questions in mind from

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their prior research and then then they

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took that information back and they

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brainstormed again and so I mean I think

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they were showing

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you know the process of investigating

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and then the other thing I thought was

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kind of interesting was the Catalina

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Island stuff and you know for years

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there's been lots of talk of UFO

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activity there and I think like um I

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think it's a Preston Dennett maybe he

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you know that's kind of like the cases

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he's known for sunk his teeth into and

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you know it just kind of adds some

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credibility there's really what is going

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on in that area that that you know

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there's the subtraction or whatever and

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I think Lee said you know is is Catalina

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Island attracting them as it you know is

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there some strategic importance other

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than obvious military for us and you

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know they have communications tower

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towers out there and you know it's about

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50 miles off the LA COSO you know you

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can understand its strategic position in

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that way but I thought that was kind of

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fascinating not something I really had

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prior connected to to the Nimitz case so

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I thought that was really interesting

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and I like he pointed out the

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investigation process and that is the

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fun part of a show like this where

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they're leading us through that

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investigation process and I like seeing

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how both Lou and Chris Mellon are

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questioning the possibility of this

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being a military exercise or a military

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test flight you know they're looking at

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that and Lou is saying look it's maybe

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maybe conceivable that this could have

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been something us with the technology

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that currently exists well let's explore

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that and they're going through these

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things trying to recognize if that could

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potentially explain what happened and if

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not being able to eliminate that from

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the possibility so that is really cool

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to see them going through that process

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yeah and they definitely I think in in

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within this military testing like is it

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conceivable that we were testing

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super-secret aircraft while also running

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training exercises and

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you know they stressed the point of not

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and not everyone gets to know everything

289
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yeah I thought there may be one or two

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people privy to this information but

291
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this would be rare that there would be

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the intersection of our own technology

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and when I say our own I mean in the

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u.s. not foreign military technology so

295
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yeah did this you know secret testing

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intersect with this other routine

297
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operation that disrupted it so much that

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they said no we're actually going to end

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training and we're gonna do some real

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world operations here and that's very

301
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curious again you have Steve justice who

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is part of the to the stars crew who is

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a major player in skunkworks and you

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have him saying I'm you know I'm not

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gonna reveal anything about top-secret

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aircraft like I can't that's obviously

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need-to-know information the television

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show does not need to know in that sense

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so but you can sense he's like very very

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watching every single word he says he's

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like I'm not going to talk about that

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yeah and all these guys have to do that

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right because they still have clearances

314
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they can't talk about any and we saw

315
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Alou again and this talking to witnesses

316
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but not talking about anything that's

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top secret but it was kind of amusing

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that being the case seeing Alou talk to

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Eve justice when talking about this

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saying you know without revealing

321
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anything that's classified or you know

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top secret

323
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what were your procedures like clearly

324
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again talk about anything like

325
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procedures our training that would all

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be top secret when they're applying

327
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these things like how do you go about

328
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doing this well clearly he can't give an

329
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answer to that yeah I thought he was a

330
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very curious character myself he was

331
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almost an antagonist and you know at

332
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first he was really shutting it all down

333
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and then then

334
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and when it went in the conversation

335
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about the x43 I think he he lightened up

336
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on that position because then then you

337
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know he laid out the whole well let's

338
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let's take a look at it and and see and

339
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you know it's kind of a process of

340
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elimination and I think like you

341
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mentioned earlier in marine 24,000 miles

342
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an hour is at least four times you know

343
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the seven thousand mile per hour and you

344
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know it didn't behave like these in any

345
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way it didn't you know annex 43 B

346
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doesn't go up and down doesn't stop

347
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doesn't hover doesn't you know cross

348
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paths with planes it doesn't you know

349
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meet you at a cat point I mean need we

350
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go on so it was it was almost like that

351
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traditional UFO show tactic that's gone

352
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on in the past where they make this

353
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mysterious case and then they you know

354
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wrap it all up in a neat little bow

355
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because it was a misunderstanding but it

356
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didn't go that way it was looked like it

357
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was gonna head that way and then they

358
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said but actually that is not a good

359
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candidate you know as an explanation for

360
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this so I thought that was kind of

361
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interesting I got a little confused

362
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there for a minute but then then I

363
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figured out what you know what they're

364
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pointing at Dan yeah and I think I think

365
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it is important that they looked at that

366
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and showed it because if you see

367
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pictures you could conceivably think

368
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well maybe I could understand why that

369
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would look like it could be a candidate

370
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and it was during the same time of the

371
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testing you know and they they analyzed

372
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that and I think that's great but also

373
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clearly it does not explain the

374
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testimony of Kevin day who said there

375
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were hundreds or a hundred in these

376
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objects it was one singular unmanned

377
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aircraft that was flying above and it

378
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does not account for anything happening

379
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underwater so I think this sonar a spec

380
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is very interesting because now it ties

381
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together the churning hovering object

382
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that the the pilot saw with now learning

383
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that something actually went underwater

384
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and was traveling at very high rates of

385
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speed underwater as well

386
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so these are objects that are mastering

387
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air and water which then leads to even

388
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more potential for this to be a super

389
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super dangerous object to to us right

390
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now it seems like obviously we've had 15

391
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years pass and have not been attacked by

392
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these tic tacs so to speak yeah but does

393
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that mean that there's not potential if

394
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this was you know 15 years ago and this

395
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technology we haven't seen anything like

396
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this technology hit any military

397
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operation on this point in time around

398
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the world so that I think adds a little

399
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bit more mystery because you know if you

400
00:18:19,020 --> 00:18:16,420
look at the history of secret black

401
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budget projects in black budget aircraft

402
00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:21,760
we tend to see these revealed to us

403
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after a certain point in time and

404
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especially if this much information is

405
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coming out about it eventually that's

406
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gonna end up as declassified information

407
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that the public is privy to if you do

408
00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:36,100
your research a little bit you know so I

409
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think this is really weighs in on

410
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whether or not this technology could be

411
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of earthly origin or whether there is

412
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some other I mean at this point in time

413
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you know you you have on the show

414
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they're saying - we're not saying this

415
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is I think blue Elizondo said little

416
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green men but that he's not saying this

417
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is extraterrestrial in origin yet and we

418
00:19:05,490 --> 00:19:02,650
know that and that's how it should be

419
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:05,500
hmm approached as well well like you

420
00:19:11,340 --> 00:19:08,410
never say definitely aliens until we

421
00:19:13,740 --> 00:19:11,350
rule out any rational explanation but

422
00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:13,750
right now this is a big mystery well

423
00:19:16,860 --> 00:19:15,130
into that point Maureen something that

424
00:19:20,190 --> 00:19:16,870
added a little more mystery for me in

425
00:19:23,690 --> 00:19:20,200
this recent episode was that comment by

426
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:23,700
by Lou and and Shane with the technical

427
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capabilities that you pointed out the

428
00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:27,790
characteristics observed by these

429
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:32,320
objects and with Lou saying it's maybe

430
00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:34,930
conceivable you know with the technology

431
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:36,510
that currently exists that

432
00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:39,600
maybe we're behind this like that was a

433
00:19:43,910 --> 00:19:41,940
surprising statement right yeah what

434
00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:43,920
technology does he know about they can

435
00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:46,110
do all of these crazy things that it

436
00:19:49,850 --> 00:19:47,910
that is a good point and that's kind of

437
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:49,860
terrifying to think about as well right

438
00:19:53,770 --> 00:19:52,170
because he he made that comment and then

439
00:19:55,940 --> 00:19:53,780
there's Steve justice who's worked on

440
00:19:58,940 --> 00:19:55,950
probably the craziest stuff that we have

441
00:20:02,690 --> 00:19:58,950
and he said yeah we can't do that so you

442
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:02,700
know it raises more questions yeah yeah

443
00:20:08,980 --> 00:20:06,090
I mean who do you believe well in this

444
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:08,990
this you know this this is what an

445
00:20:14,930 --> 00:20:11,490
investigation in real life is like you

446
00:20:19,070 --> 00:20:14,940
you know you don't have enough data to

447
00:20:20,690 --> 00:20:19,080
you know confidently say it is X or Y at

448
00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:20,700
first I mean it takes time to develop

449
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:23,190
that and I think that it's important

450
00:20:27,850 --> 00:20:25,050
that they do that due diligence and

451
00:20:31,250 --> 00:20:27,860
question and you know and run down that

452
00:20:33,410 --> 00:20:31,260
that path till till it's complete to let

453
00:20:36,370 --> 00:20:33,420
you know you've eliminated it completely

454
00:20:40,010 --> 00:20:36,380
being is it a secret device of our own

455
00:20:42,380 --> 00:20:40,020
but the the other thing I it was it was

456
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kind of new to me I think in that they

457
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:46,020
had a sub in in that training event and

458
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:49,050
that they had sonar of an object under

459
00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:50,490
water I had not picked up on that

460
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,220
earlier or was that out there before and

461
00:20:58,430 --> 00:20:55,440
I dismissed it or was that just revealed

462
00:21:00,080 --> 00:20:58,440
in the show um I didn't hear about it

463
00:21:01,820 --> 00:21:00,090
prior I think I've heard about that

464
00:21:03,710 --> 00:21:01,830
either but something else that they

465
00:21:05,230 --> 00:21:03,720
threw in this time and in this is

466
00:21:08,420 --> 00:21:05,240
something else that you know as

467
00:21:10,550 --> 00:21:08,430
objective viewers and observers of this

468
00:21:12,350 --> 00:21:10,560
whole thing we have to watch every

469
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:12,360
little thing and consider it and

470
00:21:16,790 --> 00:21:14,850
understand that this is a TV show and

471
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not getting the farías or a

472
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:20,000
conspiratorial at all but TV shows are

473
00:21:24,020 --> 00:21:22,650
steering a story a certain direction and

474
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they're telling us stories you have to

475
00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:26,130
look and see what story is even told

476
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here and with this information we also

477
00:21:34,910 --> 00:21:31,890
in this episode saw the return of the

478
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wingman pilot who stated that when she

479
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saw this disturbance in the water she

480
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her initial reaction was she thought it

481
00:21:42,940 --> 00:21:41,010
was a submarine that had surfaced and

482
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launched something from the submarine

483
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and now we hear that there was a

484
00:21:49,650 --> 00:21:46,620
submarine in the area that's interesting

485
00:21:51,650 --> 00:21:49,660
but talking about the storytelling

486
00:21:54,090 --> 00:21:51,660
we're seeing again in this episode and

487
00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:54,100
with the headlines that have been tied

488
00:21:59,520 --> 00:21:56,080
to this show I think we're getting a

489
00:22:01,260 --> 00:21:59,530
clearer picture of a larger theme and in

490
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:01,270
a motive here behind all this and that

491
00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:03,970
is diminishing the ridicule factor with

492
00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:06,130
this topic yeah I heard that brought up

493
00:22:10,050 --> 00:22:08,230
many times again in this episode of

494
00:22:11,820 --> 00:22:10,060
people not talking because they didn't

495
00:22:13,260 --> 00:22:11,830
want to be ridiculed they didn't want to

496
00:22:16,140 --> 00:22:13,270
lose their jobs they didn't want to be

497
00:22:18,450 --> 00:22:16,150
labeled a weirdo so that is coming up

498
00:22:21,390 --> 00:22:18,460
again and again and I think that's going

499
00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:21,400
to be the overarching theme of this

500
00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:23,110
entire series if nothing else comes of

501
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:25,510
it that's it and you know with me I

502
00:22:28,740 --> 00:22:27,250
would be very happy with that because

503
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:28,750
you know how I feel about de

504
00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:30,640
stigmatizing this topic and and getting

505
00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:32,950
people to be able to realize the reality

506
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:34,990
of the situation and have intelligent

507
00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:36,850
conversations about it and we certainly

508
00:22:43,290 --> 00:22:41,080
hope that our military is very concerned

509
00:22:45,330 --> 00:22:43,300
about unidentified objects in the sky

510
00:22:47,490 --> 00:22:45,340
and want people to report them so they

511
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:47,500
can look into them I think that's a

512
00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:51,250
great point and I mean this is a little

513
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:55,030
tricky maybe for outside people who have

514
00:23:00,060 --> 00:22:57,730
not been in this field for so long you

515
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:00,070
know we we've spent a lot of time in

516
00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:02,890
this field and and know that it's

517
00:23:06,420 --> 00:23:04,660
totally normal to talk about this kind

518
00:23:08,790 --> 00:23:06,430
of stuff at least I feel like that I

519
00:23:11,370 --> 00:23:08,800
think I'm a normal person you know if an

520
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:11,380
object is unidentified you shouldn't be

521
00:23:17,850 --> 00:23:14,530
you know feel like you cannot report it

522
00:23:20,730 --> 00:23:17,860
nobody's nobody should be I should say

523
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:20,740
in intelligent conversations like this

524
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:23,050
like you said in real world military

525
00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:25,360
pilots and other people spotting these

526
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:29,110
objects if it's unknown it's unknown and

527
00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:31,210
it shouldn't be a thing where you are

528
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:34,000
ridiculed for not knowing what something

529
00:23:42,270 --> 00:23:37,930
is so yeah I agree I was gonna say just

530
00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:42,280
you know but I think one of the things

531
00:23:46,370 --> 00:23:45,100
accomplished by TSA are two things the

532
00:23:48,780 --> 00:23:46,380
main thing in my mind is first

533
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:48,790
revelation of a UFO program by the

534
00:23:53,010 --> 00:23:50,650
government right they denied that since

535
00:23:54,510 --> 00:23:53,020
69 so I think that's the biggest thing

536
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:54,520
that's been accomplished so far but

537
00:23:59,970 --> 00:23:57,250
secondly is the reduction of that

538
00:24:02,100 --> 00:23:59,980
ridicule factor and that is so huge I

539
00:24:03,390 --> 00:24:02,110
mean you know we've all personally

540
00:24:05,670 --> 00:24:03,400
experienced it we know

541
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:05,680
many people who have but if he even go

542
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:08,110
back and look at you know the story of

543
00:24:15,420 --> 00:24:11,050
Kevin day and Voorhees and Turner and

544
00:24:17,730 --> 00:24:15,430
you know all of these guys you know it

545
00:24:19,470 --> 00:24:17,740
negatively impacted their life this is

546
00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:19,480
the source of that emotion you know

547
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:21,670
what's the ridicule and again these are

548
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:24,400
extremely highly qualified professional

549
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:26,080
people who dedicated their lives to

550
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:28,330
their you know technician skills and

551
00:24:32,460 --> 00:24:29,890
just you know serving our country and

552
00:24:35,490 --> 00:24:32,470
protecting us you know all in more in

553
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:35,500
the you know the average person and all

554
00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:37,690
they wanted to do was to relate these

555
00:24:41,970 --> 00:24:40,480
factual accounts of these things

556
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:41,980
happening in the course of you know

557
00:24:45,630 --> 00:24:44,170
serving those functions in protecting

558
00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:45,640
the country and for that they're

559
00:24:50,190 --> 00:24:47,710
ridiculed they're T's they're poopoo

560
00:24:53,250 --> 00:24:50,200
they're threatened I mean come on and

561
00:24:55,380 --> 00:24:53,260
that's that's just ridiculous so I mean

562
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:55,390
I think it is huge and important and

563
00:25:00,360 --> 00:24:57,850
really you know heartwarming really to

564
00:25:01,830 --> 00:25:00,370
see that that you know at least from the

565
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:01,840
military's perspective they're gonna

566
00:25:06,270 --> 00:25:04,480
listen to these people and you know and

567
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:06,280
that in turn will free it up a little

568
00:25:10,020 --> 00:25:08,559
bit for us as well and I'm sure you guys

569
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:10,030
have already experienced it I know I

570
00:25:14,790 --> 00:25:12,400
have that people are opening up our

571
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:14,800
listening and not not ready killing so I

572
00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:17,170
thought that's a big deal something that

573
00:25:21,419 --> 00:25:18,820
I think we've all experienced is

574
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:21,429
something that I loved seeing depicted

575
00:25:27,020 --> 00:25:23,610
in the show and that was the

576
00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:27,030
conservationists on Catalina Island who

577
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:29,200
mentioned that you know when I talked

578
00:25:34,770 --> 00:25:31,600
about even up to a week ago to people

579
00:25:36,450 --> 00:25:34,780
about possibly being on this show you

580
00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:36,460
know they were telling me oh I've seen

581
00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:37,780
something strange in the sky oh I've

582
00:25:42,510 --> 00:25:40,510
seen the UFO and that's how it happens

583
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:42,520
in the real world right I mean everybody

584
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:45,250
who told that we are involved in UFOs

585
00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:47,890
you know they want to tell their story

586
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:50,470
or they know somebody who's seen a UFO

587
00:25:53,970 --> 00:25:51,850
or they have a family member who has a

588
00:25:56,490 --> 00:25:53,980
story so it just kind of all unfolds

589
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:56,500
like that so those conversations do

590
00:26:01,410 --> 00:25:58,330
happen I think the ridicule factor has

591
00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:01,420
diminished significantly I in recent

592
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:03,670
years but it's just a side note

593
00:26:07,730 --> 00:26:05,530
something funny I thought about in that

594
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:07,740
moment seeing that scene on this episode

595
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:10,960
was just again something that we see

596
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:12,850
more and more with with social media

597
00:26:16,810 --> 00:26:15,490
these days and and TV production and for

598
00:26:18,940 --> 00:26:16,820
anybody who's ever been involved

599
00:26:22,299 --> 00:26:18,950
a TV production Maureen and I certainly

600
00:26:24,009 --> 00:26:22,309
have in several and you know you have

601
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:24,019
these things called nd as you sign

602
00:26:28,749 --> 00:26:26,450
non-disclosure agreements when you get

603
00:26:30,610 --> 00:26:28,759
engaged for any TV project or approached

604
00:26:32,740 --> 00:26:30,620
you have to sign a nondisclosure

605
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:32,750
agreement saying that you're not going

606
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:34,970
to talk about the show to anybody or

607
00:26:40,570 --> 00:26:37,610
tell any ot what's what the network is

608
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:40,580
what this the the subject of the show is

609
00:26:43,870 --> 00:26:42,529
going to be but clearly right there on

610
00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:43,880
camera she's saying oh yeah I was

611
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:45,950
telling people all about it I literally

612
00:26:53,499 --> 00:26:51,289
had the exact I was like oh interesting

613
00:26:56,049 --> 00:26:53,509
she's gone around telling everyone she's

614
00:26:57,759 --> 00:26:56,059
gonna be on a TV show yeah that's funny

615
00:26:59,950 --> 00:26:57,769
I noticed that comment in fact my wife

616
00:27:01,720 --> 00:26:59,960
watch it with me and you know she's not

617
00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:01,730
really too much into this but I told her

618
00:27:06,009 --> 00:27:03,980
you gotta watch this oh so she did but

619
00:27:07,570 --> 00:27:06,019
she picked up on that too she said that

620
00:27:09,610 --> 00:27:07,580
lady almost looks like a little

621
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:09,620
embarrassed but you can also tell that

622
00:27:15,070 --> 00:27:13,129
you know she she she had this experience

623
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:15,080
and that you know people are talking her

624
00:27:19,180 --> 00:27:17,210
and you know and and it's a surprise

625
00:27:21,129 --> 00:27:19,190
that she stated that on the show and now

626
00:27:23,529 --> 00:27:21,139
we're not aware of the NDA's per se like

627
00:27:25,180 --> 00:27:23,539
you guys are but it just and again it

628
00:27:28,269 --> 00:27:25,190
goes back to that ridicule factor that

629
00:27:30,730 --> 00:27:28,279
you know she's it's even being overcome

630
00:27:33,070 --> 00:27:30,740
for people who are you know it's second

631
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:33,080
third fourth tear down from you know

632
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:35,450
being involved directly and that's

633
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:38,090
amazing that you know just people in in

634
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:40,159
positions you never think are affected

635
00:27:43,450 --> 00:27:41,210
by this as well

636
00:27:46,619 --> 00:27:43,460
yeah and I agree with you like she

637
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:46,629
looked uncomfortable in terms of like

638
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:50,240
she was smiling and like kind of just he

639
00:27:54,730 --> 00:27:51,710
was telling this really serious thing

640
00:27:58,749 --> 00:27:54,740
and she was I'm not really sure how much

641
00:28:02,590 --> 00:27:58,759
she particularly added to this show in

642
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:02,600
terms of information I think it was more

643
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:05,809
just like access to erase you yeah

644
00:28:13,180 --> 00:28:08,240
trying to stress that access to some of

645
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:13,190
these locations is not you know easy but

646
00:28:16,869 --> 00:28:14,809
but yeah it's fine it's we're setting

647
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:16,879
the stage for again and this is

648
00:28:22,090 --> 00:28:18,799
interesting I'm gonna I'm gonna say

649
00:28:24,610 --> 00:28:22,100
something a little crazy you that's not

650
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:24,620
right no no no and it's not that crazy

651
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,090
it's just you know there was so much

652
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:30,640
news in trauma

653
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:33,529
about the west coast of California for

654
00:28:38,980 --> 00:28:35,890
you know a couple of years with this

655
00:28:41,380 --> 00:28:38,990
stupid sorry I shouldn't say stupid

656
00:28:44,350 --> 00:28:41,390
you can tell my opinion on this is the

657
00:28:48,250 --> 00:28:44,360
underground alleged underground base in

658
00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:48,260
Malibu that was in the news for so long

659
00:28:53,860 --> 00:28:50,720
about these satellite images that were

660
00:28:56,830 --> 00:28:53,870
really strange but it's you know as as

661
00:28:57,940 --> 00:28:56,840
okay here is where I think her testimony

662
00:29:00,370 --> 00:28:57,950
kind of heard a little bit was

663
00:29:02,490 --> 00:29:00,380
interesting is talking about the

664
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:02,500
tectonic plates and where they lie

665
00:29:06,190 --> 00:29:04,250
because this brings in another

666
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:06,200
interesting perspective there why are

667
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:11,690
these areas being explored and I think

668
00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:13,730
that is a huge tie in is the west coast

669
00:29:20,529 --> 00:29:18,710
is on these fault lines that are

670
00:29:23,169 --> 00:29:20,539
occurring and is this something it's

671
00:29:25,889 --> 00:29:23,179
it's similar to so much activity being

672
00:29:28,029 --> 00:29:25,899
around the nuclear bases and or

673
00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:28,039
submarines or anything else you know

674
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:30,169
it's there's all these little tie ins

675
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:34,970
that are going to I think lead to more

676
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:36,770
questions than we're ever going to get

677
00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:40,880
answers to so I don't know I can see

678
00:29:44,919 --> 00:29:42,950
this happening because now we see next

679
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:44,929
week on unidentified and they're gonna

680
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:47,450
head on the boat and are they gonna go

681
00:29:52,299 --> 00:29:50,240
diving I mean personally I've been

682
00:29:56,350 --> 00:29:52,309
involved in a show where that's exactly

683
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:56,360
what we did to go see what was

684
00:30:01,899 --> 00:29:58,399
underwater why these UFOs are being

685
00:30:08,049 --> 00:30:01,909
spotted in this area so it was a little

686
00:30:11,710 --> 00:30:08,059
deja vu for me yeah so so we'll we'll

687
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:11,720
see what their whole purpose is once

688
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:14,330
they get out to this latitude and

689
00:30:20,260 --> 00:30:16,250
longitude line that Kevin day provides

690
00:30:23,470 --> 00:30:20,270
them what exactly they're going to do

691
00:30:25,419 --> 00:30:23,480
because I mean obviously it's the whole

692
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:25,429
process of showing the investigation if

693
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:27,529
you have a location yeah let's go check

694
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:30,559
it out but as you know with UFOs or

695
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:32,720
anything that's unidentified if you have

696
00:30:37,860 --> 00:30:35,840
a location you're like again we're

697
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:37,870
talking this is 15 years later unless

698
00:30:43,570 --> 00:30:41,450
there is some sort of weird secret thing

699
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:43,580
underwater they can find the location

700
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:44,370
means jack

701
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:46,950
[\h__\h] because these are mobile objects

702
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:49,170
and they're not gonna be able to find

703
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:52,620
trace evidence in the water from 15

704
00:30:59,799 --> 00:30:56,130
years ago of these objects unless they

705
00:31:03,470 --> 00:30:59,809
have some service are er just super cool

706
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:03,480
information so I don't know all you can

707
00:31:06,650 --> 00:31:05,490
do is look can we talk about one more

708
00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:06,660
thing though yep

709
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:10,590
why did liaison don't need to bring his

710
00:31:24,790 --> 00:31:12,930
giant backpacking backpack into Kevin's

711
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:27,470
that was because I feel like we saw his

712
00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:29,610
backpack highlighted multiple times in

713
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:31,320
the first episode and then we see it

714
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:33,270
again here what he's going in with Tom

715
00:31:38,510 --> 00:31:35,970
DeLonge like get a nice little small

716
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:38,520
satchel be great it's gonna be Maureen

717
00:31:42,140 --> 00:31:40,290
you know it you just know I saw it and

718
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:42,150
they're all hey can you bring that with

719
00:31:50,900 --> 00:31:47,970
you look like a you know like rugged

720
00:31:52,669 --> 00:31:50,910
yeah yeah it does give a military

721
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:52,679
connotation right um yeah that's

722
00:31:57,470 --> 00:31:55,110
probably probably what that and what's

723
00:31:59,860 --> 00:31:57,480
behind that but but you know it is a TV

724
00:32:02,840 --> 00:31:59,870
show and there's an artistic you know

725
00:32:04,669 --> 00:32:02,850
factor to it and you know I'm I'm sure

726
00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:04,679
this is well-thought-out right you guys

727
00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:06,630
you know that entertainment aspect

728
00:32:10,730 --> 00:32:09,270
behind it we we know it that's just the

729
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:10,740
way TV is and this is how they have to

730
00:32:17,690 --> 00:32:15,330
do it I did appreciate after our we all

731
00:32:20,180 --> 00:32:17,700
discovered our weird scared crush on

732
00:32:21,620 --> 00:32:20,190
Chris melon lastly we've got a lot of

733
00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:21,630
Chris metal and going around in

734
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:25,470
different I we're talking to people in

735
00:32:29,660 --> 00:32:28,050
and again here is where they're doing

736
00:32:31,910 --> 00:32:29,670
the smart thing with their team is

737
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:31,920
they're playing up to each person's

738
00:32:36,770 --> 00:32:34,530
assets and using them when they know

739
00:32:39,049 --> 00:32:36,780
it'll be beneficial to the storyline so

740
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:39,059
you know obviously we have Steve Justice

741
00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:41,490
and skunkworks very important if we're

742
00:32:50,410 --> 00:32:46,980
talking about advanced aircraft that's

743
00:32:54,020 --> 00:32:50,420
probably top secret we've got you know

744
00:32:56,060 --> 00:32:54,030
Chris Mullin who they decided I think he

745
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:56,070
would best be suited to interview this

746
00:33:00,110 --> 00:32:57,490
person

747
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:00,120
and then you had Lou and Tom DeLonge

748
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:04,570
interview Kevin day it's I think it was

749
00:33:11,910 --> 00:33:07,330
the the they chose Chris melon to

750
00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:11,920
interview Gary because they were leading

751
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:13,150
them into that government cover-up

752
00:33:19,950 --> 00:33:17,050
comment so yeah that make you know it it

753
00:33:23,610 --> 00:33:19,960
feels like I know what they're doing but

754
00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:23,620
again I don't know the answers to the

755
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:25,750
mystery of this story so you've got that

756
00:33:31,530 --> 00:33:28,480
TV knowledge and it's fun to watch like

757
00:33:33,870 --> 00:33:31,540
through that lens and like I even find

758
00:33:36,450 --> 00:33:33,880
myself looking at the creative editing

759
00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:36,460
and stuff too like with the woman on

760
00:33:41,070 --> 00:33:38,830
Catalina right with her that just kind

761
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:41,080
of awkward facial expression she had

762
00:33:46,050 --> 00:33:44,110
when we was talking I wonder if that was

763
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:46,060
actually during him talking about there

764
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:48,250
have been a lot of incidents here or if

765
00:33:51,540 --> 00:33:49,930
it was just you know b-roll they were

766
00:33:53,970 --> 00:33:51,550
shooting at some random time when they

767
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:53,980
were standing around and yeah and then

768
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:55,690
they let her dating because it looked it

769
00:33:59,130 --> 00:33:57,610
was probably telling us you know we

770
00:34:00,810 --> 00:33:59,140
heard you were talking about this show

771
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:00,820
and you weren't supposed to catch a sign

772
00:34:06,780 --> 00:34:05,050
here awkward smile yeah you know what

773
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:06,790
though you did bring us something I

774
00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:08,770
would have liked unknown more about that

775
00:34:12,930 --> 00:34:11,260
whole tectonic plate issue and you know

776
00:34:15,780 --> 00:34:12,940
they just they had a quick picture of

777
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:15,790
her look like some kind of kid book I've

778
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:18,250
got a book or something and but you know

779
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,280
the main reason it showed showed the the

780
00:34:25,020 --> 00:34:23,440
different plates moving stuff I mean I'm

781
00:34:26,820 --> 00:34:25,030
kind of a technical guy in a lot of ways

782
00:34:28,290 --> 00:34:26,830
so I I'm like hey I want to know more

783
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:28,300
about that so I'm going to look that

784
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:30,370
stuff up actually I thought it might be

785
00:34:35,010 --> 00:34:32,800
related you know yeah and I think that

786
00:34:37,530 --> 00:34:35,020
we'll see more of that I think that's a

787
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:37,540
lead-in to future episodes

788
00:34:43,470 --> 00:34:40,240
in you know I mean this begs the

789
00:34:46,620 --> 00:34:43,480
question and maybe you know this and I

790
00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:46,630
just have not paid attention is season

791
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:49,720
one only going to be an investigation of

792
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:55,570
the tic-tock UFO case or anything else

793
00:35:01,140 --> 00:34:58,570
yeah so that I mean because we know we

794
00:35:03,470 --> 00:35:01,150
have the gimbal and the go-fast you know

795
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:03,480
everything videos that have already been

796
00:35:10,770 --> 00:35:08,050
publicly released but are they going to

797
00:35:11,250 --> 00:35:10,780
get into those or are they I think I

798
00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:11,260
feel like

799
00:35:14,670 --> 00:35:13,030
it's gonna be those three videos if

800
00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:14,680
anything that are covered in this we're

801
00:35:18,690 --> 00:35:16,390
not gonna see anything that hasn't

802
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:18,700
because other information has not been

803
00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:21,910
Declassified yet so right but how long

804
00:35:28,620 --> 00:35:26,260
is this one particular case going to be

805
00:35:31,770 --> 00:35:28,630
investigated because we know that it's

806
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:31,780
gonna be next episode too and it's a six

807
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:35,170
episode first season so yeah it's true

808
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:36,610
and in case they could be using that as

809
00:35:41,730 --> 00:35:38,770
bait - right I mean see how much they

810
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:41,740
can milk with this one video essentially

811
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:45,520
as their primer 2hf see what the

812
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:47,530
response is with these six episodes and

813
00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:50,560
then get a full up a full series order

814
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:53,470
of like 13 episodes or something yeah

815
00:36:00,930 --> 00:35:57,490
well I am I'm feeling like it's quite

816
00:36:04,290 --> 00:36:00,940
likely that they'll renew the show but I

817
00:36:07,110 --> 00:36:04,300
don't know about ratings or what so well

818
00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:07,120
I do know if you look at schedule for

819
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:10,390
alien con la they will have at least

820
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:12,880
some semblance of presence there there

821
00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:15,760
is at least one timeslot allotted for

822
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:20,080
this show so there will be at least a

823
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:21,940
couple people associated with the show

824
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:25,210
at alien con la interesting because I've

825
00:36:29,250 --> 00:36:26,890
only been paying attention to you and

826
00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:29,260
Ryan schedules like looking at where I'm

827
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:31,180
probably going to have to be at certain

828
00:36:34,860 --> 00:36:33,610
times during the day but I haven't

829
00:36:37,110 --> 00:36:34,870
looked at the rest of the programming

830
00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:37,120
and it's continuing to be updated

831
00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:39,340
it seems daily it's a lot of stuff's

832
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:40,870
changing even a lot of stuff is moving

833
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:42,910
around so if you have looked at the

834
00:36:48,450 --> 00:36:45,610
schedule and you're hoping to plan your

835
00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:48,460
your time at alien con and you want to

836
00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:50,260
come and see some of our stuff you keep

837
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:52,150
checking the schedule because that stuff

838
00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:53,890
has changed and even the stuff that we

839
00:36:57,780 --> 00:36:55,870
talked about last week when things were

840
00:37:01,110 --> 00:36:57,790
taking place somewhere that's already

841
00:37:03,570 --> 00:37:01,120
changed so yeah download alien Carnap

842
00:37:05,250 --> 00:37:03,580
yes and I'm on your phone and then yeah

843
00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:05,260
and you can stay current that way right

844
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:07,990
well I mean you can favorite sessions

845
00:37:11,850 --> 00:37:10,000
that you're interested in and and set

846
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:11,860
reminders when those are coming up he'd

847
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:14,170
be notified but also the cool thing

848
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:15,730
about the app and and Ryan and I both

849
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:18,160
both have this experience with a link on

850
00:37:21,749 --> 00:37:19,569
Baltimore is

851
00:37:23,549 --> 00:37:21,759
the app is really well done and they've

852
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:23,559
what they've really created this thing

853
00:37:29,370 --> 00:37:26,729
to do is create sort of an alien

854
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:29,380
community at the event because it has a

855
00:37:33,660 --> 00:37:31,930
very active essentially like message

856
00:37:35,789 --> 00:37:33,670
board really yeah where people are just

857
00:37:38,219 --> 00:37:35,799
just having a conversation people are

858
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:38,229
asking questions cycle oh yeah what

859
00:37:42,959 --> 00:37:40,690
hotel are you staying in or or what what

860
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:42,969
panels are you looking forward to or

861
00:37:46,529 --> 00:37:45,249
this is my third alien con how many of

862
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:46,539
you been to just this ongoing

863
00:37:53,069 --> 00:37:50,170
conversation zero it gets really popular

864
00:37:55,019 --> 00:37:53,079
the weekend of the event really active

865
00:37:57,059 --> 00:37:55,029
discussion so if that's something that

866
00:37:58,229 --> 00:37:57,069
interests you you check out that feature

867
00:38:00,719 --> 00:37:58,239
but I think they do a really good job

868
00:38:03,269 --> 00:38:00,729
with the app that's great it sounds like

869
00:38:05,339 --> 00:38:03,279
hostels you know like if you ever travel

870
00:38:07,499 --> 00:38:05,349
around Europe and you use hostel world

871
00:38:09,479 --> 00:38:07,509
or something like that they have oh this

872
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:09,489
hostel has the chat board which is great

873
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:11,890
if you're traveling by yourself and you

874
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:13,599
want to enter a sec with people same

875
00:38:16,229 --> 00:38:15,609
thing with alien kanpur fect that's

876
00:38:19,410 --> 00:38:16,239
great to hear

877
00:38:22,229 --> 00:38:19,420
yeah I like that in in even like last

878
00:38:25,319 --> 00:38:22,239
week I think I don't know if Ryan

879
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:25,329
announced it on the last week's episode

880
00:38:32,699 --> 00:38:29,650
but now again like you said now that

881
00:38:35,549 --> 00:38:32,709
mysteries decoded got repacked up on the

882
00:38:38,130 --> 00:38:35,559
CW that Ryan's a part of they're now

883
00:38:40,469 --> 00:38:38,140
doing a panel there and that was brand

884
00:38:42,779 --> 00:38:40,479
new programming so yeah write and

885
00:38:45,479 --> 00:38:42,789
identify we're gonna have multiple UFO

886
00:38:52,109 --> 00:38:45,489
shows represented there obviously and

887
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:52,119
then obviously ancient aliens or the

888
00:38:58,799 --> 00:38:55,690
events based off of so very interesting

889
00:39:00,599 --> 00:38:58,809
history and I am interested that the

890
00:39:02,430 --> 00:39:00,609
fact that history is bringing in shows

891
00:39:04,709 --> 00:39:02,440
that are not on their network I think

892
00:39:06,989 --> 00:39:04,719
that's smart for them because this has

893
00:39:11,370 --> 00:39:06,999
become a bigger event it shouldn't just

894
00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:11,380
be like a fan event for just their one

895
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:13,630
show they've recognized that yeah

896
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:16,089
they're really building this into like a

897
00:39:22,229 --> 00:39:18,400
whole sort of community event around

898
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:22,239
this topic and they even have again if

899
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:24,670
you peruse the schedule you'll find all

900
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:26,410
sorts of discoveries in there but they

901
00:39:31,710 --> 00:39:28,330
are also going to have

902
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:31,720
a panel a presence of a show about

903
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:33,730
skinwalker that hasn't even been

904
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:36,370
announced yet so mm hmm interesting

905
00:39:45,150 --> 00:39:41,410
hmm Oh actually I I think I do know some

906
00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:45,160
stuff about that show mm-hmm yeah I've

907
00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:48,700
been inside this show has been a rumour

908
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:50,470
mill for a long time and we certainly

909
00:39:56,670 --> 00:39:53,290
know some of the people who really

910
00:39:59,460 --> 00:39:56,680
executed this project some are no longer

911
00:40:01,470 --> 00:39:59,470
part of the project but yeah it's it's

912
00:40:03,450 --> 00:40:01,480
been a wild ride and and maybe we'll get

913
00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:03,460
more clarification and some official

914
00:40:08,610 --> 00:40:05,860
announcements at alien Con so yeah it's

915
00:40:11,070 --> 00:40:08,620
it's definitely turned turning into sort

916
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:11,080
of a comic-con for for the alien UFO

917
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:13,510
topic we're just all the production

918
00:40:17,580 --> 00:40:15,970
companies and shows and all that are

919
00:40:19,530 --> 00:40:17,590
coming together and everybody wants to

920
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:19,540
have a presence there well in speaking

921
00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:22,960
of that on the comic-con front you know

922
00:40:29,220 --> 00:40:25,990
that that like you said all right so

923
00:40:31,230 --> 00:40:29,230
this is a fine line between the D

924
00:40:33,150 --> 00:40:31,240
stigmatizing the ridicule factor and

925
00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:33,160
also understanding that it's okay to

926
00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:38,680
like have fun with it too I mean the

927
00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:40,020
shadows and bringing it into pop culture

928
00:40:45,630 --> 00:40:43,390
right exactly so and on that note I

929
00:40:48,990 --> 00:40:45,640
think we mentioned this last week but

930
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:49,000
Jason is a judge of the costume contest

931
00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:52,960
yes and I'm actually quite excited for

932
00:40:57,570 --> 00:40:55,840
his judging I'm not gonna I don't dress

933
00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:57,580
up I never dress up at comic-con sis

934
00:41:02,130 --> 00:40:58,930
just cause planes not my thing

935
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:02,140
I really respect the people who put so

936
00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:04,050
much time and effort into these like

937
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:06,790
very elaborate costumes that they build

938
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:08,770
that take a long time to build solutely

939
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:11,530
I have dressed up as an alien before but

940
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:15,280
it was for a game of keg ball and I was

941
00:41:21,570 --> 00:41:18,070
painted green wearing a weird space suit

942
00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:21,580
but you will not catch me doing that in

943
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:25,150
public at events personally because I am

944
00:41:33,060 --> 00:41:29,530
you know a researcher and I in terms of

945
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:33,070
being at events I'd I want to be taken

946
00:41:37,470 --> 00:41:34,770
more seriously if I was walking around

947
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:37,480
dressed up like an alien I don't think

948
00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:40,960
I'd have as many conversations or you

949
00:41:46,310 --> 00:41:43,990
more I think viola narrator test to help

950
00:41:48,109 --> 00:41:46,320
right not the right time stations yeah

951
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:48,119
that's true

952
00:41:53,099 --> 00:41:50,770
like I said cosplay is awesome

953
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:53,109
people are good at it if you are doing

954
00:41:59,370 --> 00:41:55,170
that and you're gonna be at alien con

955
00:42:03,270 --> 00:41:59,380
Jason will be judging you yeah so that's

956
00:42:05,609 --> 00:42:03,280
really awesome and also like please do

957
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:05,619
come up and talk to us you know I'm not

958
00:42:11,849 --> 00:42:08,650
speaking but Shane and I will be around

959
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:11,859
with with Jason and Ryan supporting them

960
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:15,040
and running around and please come up

961
00:42:19,170 --> 00:42:16,690
and talk to us we want to hear his

962
00:42:22,859 --> 00:42:19,180
stories whatever say hi we don't bite

963
00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:22,869
yeah it'd be awesome yeah we're super

964
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:24,520
excited for it it's going to be a

965
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:27,250
weekend of fun and yeah hopefully we

966
00:42:32,310 --> 00:42:30,010
have I mean we always hope for this we

967
00:42:34,650 --> 00:42:32,320
hope for more time to just have the the

968
00:42:36,750 --> 00:42:34,660
hangouts and and talk to people and grab

969
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:36,760
a drink but we always seem to run out of

970
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:39,910
time so I should take something back

971
00:42:53,010 --> 00:42:49,330
Jason does by I'm judging a costume

972
00:42:55,260 --> 00:42:53,020
contest Shane okay he does accept

973
00:42:57,089 --> 00:42:55,270
bribery's in the forms of buying him

974
00:43:09,210 --> 00:42:57,099
drinks so if you're really looking to

975
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:09,220
get the inside edge if you are with

976
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:12,609
history ane or mischief management or

977
00:43:18,359 --> 00:43:14,770
alien conure listening to this Loreen is

978
00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:18,369
just kidding my integrity is intact I

979
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:21,190
cannot be bribed I will be innovative in

980
00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:24,790
my costume judging try to give me a

981
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:26,830
trouble Maureen I trust you

982
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:30,130
he it's a very fair impartial judge

983
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:31,359
there you go

984
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:34,210
Robert Picardo on the other hand I'm not

985
00:43:39,770 --> 00:43:37,210
gonna sling mud well I don't know I

986
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:39,780
think he'd probably be a little bit

987
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:43,170
lenient towards Star Trek yeah

988
00:43:49,220 --> 00:43:45,440
there there are a lot of Star Trek

989
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:49,230
devotees at alien Con it is very popular

990
00:43:54,460 --> 00:43:51,450
there so I'm sure we'll see a lot of

991
00:43:56,690 --> 00:43:54,470
Star Trek cosplay yeah I would

992
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:56,700
billionaires gonna be the ass and Chad's

993
00:44:01,400 --> 00:43:59,520
called my god no you guys so I had no

994
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:01,410
idea I ended up hearing this weird

995
00:44:05,690 --> 00:44:03,450
William Shatner rap song on Friday at

996
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:05,700
work and I wasn't really paying

997
00:44:10,130 --> 00:44:08,010
attention and somebody goes like oh yeah

998
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:10,140
like William Shatner song and I was like

999
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,170
wait what like didn't even like hear his

1000
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:15,599
voice I guess I did I just didn't

1001
00:44:21,170 --> 00:44:18,170
realize it was like a real weird song

1002
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:21,180
well that's hilarious at alien Con you

1003
00:44:27,380 --> 00:44:23,970
should get in line for Q&A and ask him

1004
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:27,390
if he'll he'll rap for you right now

1005
00:44:37,970 --> 00:44:31,680
hold on I don't know anyways so he has a

1006
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:37,980
lot of interesting musical clips yes he

1007
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:43,440
does his musical career is fascinating

1008
00:44:51,950 --> 00:44:47,910
yeah I only know as my wife wants his

1009
00:44:53,299 --> 00:44:51,960
autograph on it on the book so I'm sure

1010
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:53,309
she'll be standing in a very long line

1011
00:45:00,530 --> 00:44:57,200
for that yeah Oh your wife's coming yes

1012
00:45:04,839 --> 00:45:00,540
it's our anniversary on the 14th and so

1013
00:45:10,789 --> 00:45:07,430
she's such a good sport she's game for

1014
00:45:13,789 --> 00:45:10,799
anything she'll be yeah cool that's a

1015
00:45:17,180 --> 00:45:13,799
very good wife yes it is

1016
00:45:20,270 --> 00:45:17,190
I'll keep her okay

1017
00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:20,280
when did we see this oh that was 531

1018
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:22,200
yeah sorry I just saw Bryce Sables

1019
00:45:28,849 --> 00:45:27,359
tweeting about the blue Elizondo

1020
00:45:31,099 --> 00:45:28,859
allegedly saying that the u.s.

1021
00:45:34,910 --> 00:45:31,109
government has crash crash wreckage in

1022
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:34,920
its possession I forgot that was that I

1023
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:37,710
don't watch fox news so I miss this

1024
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:39,569
Tucker Carlson interview

1025
00:45:44,450 --> 00:45:42,690
yeah but but yeah I wonder how that's

1026
00:45:48,380 --> 00:45:44,460
gonna play whether that plays into the

1027
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:48,390
show or what I'm sure it probably will

1028
00:45:51,890 --> 00:45:50,250
and again I think that's all related to

1029
00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:51,900
stuff that we've already heard since the

1030
00:45:56,030 --> 00:45:53,790
very beginning the first New York Times

1031
00:45:59,090 --> 00:45:56,040
article about Bigelow and modify

1032
00:46:00,890 --> 00:45:59,100
his hangars and all of the meta

1033
00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:00,900
materials like this we've been down this

1034
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:02,520
road before and it's the same story

1035
00:46:08,510 --> 00:46:05,810
spinning and spawning new headlines so

1036
00:46:09,020 --> 00:46:08,520
yeah I can't yeah the atom project for

1037
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:09,030
sure

1038
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:11,010
so yeah right I forgot about the atom

1039
00:46:15,470 --> 00:46:13,170
project somehow well it's gonna be

1040
00:46:17,050 --> 00:46:15,480
interesting I I think the first two

1041
00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:17,060
episodes have done a done a great job

1042
00:46:21,620 --> 00:46:20,040
it's telling an interesting story from a

1043
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:21,630
new perspective you know with all these

1044
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:23,730
military and governments and aerospace

1045
00:46:29,210 --> 00:46:26,640
insiders so that's what really makes it

1046
00:46:32,450 --> 00:46:29,220
fun and different from other UFO shows

1047
00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:32,460
we've seen so you bring up a good point

1048
00:46:38,180 --> 00:46:35,870
worrying about are we just going to see

1049
00:46:41,630 --> 00:46:38,190
investigations related to the Tic Tac

1050
00:46:44,810 --> 00:46:41,640
incident or incidents through all six

1051
00:46:46,580 --> 00:46:44,820
episodes with the previews for next

1052
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,590
episode suggesting that we're going to

1053
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:48,480
see more of it I don't know three

1054
00:46:55,460 --> 00:46:50,730
episodes out of six it's looking like

1055
00:46:58,100 --> 00:46:55,470
that might be the case yeah I think that

1056
00:47:01,100 --> 00:46:58,110
might be the central core of this season

1057
00:47:03,950 --> 00:47:01,110
maybe it's we're gonna get one serious

1058
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:03,960
look but again like you said at the well

1059
00:47:08,810 --> 00:47:06,240
we've talked about prior at the close of

1060
00:47:10,970 --> 00:47:08,820
each episode they have if you are a

1061
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:10,980
military person who has seen a UFO

1062
00:47:16,970 --> 00:47:14,000
please contact us so they're building up

1063
00:47:20,510 --> 00:47:16,980
other totaled non-related cases we know

1064
00:47:23,630 --> 00:47:20,520
that yeah yeah because it's not

1065
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:23,640
necessarily like you know one of the

1066
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:25,410
persons involved in the Tic Tac or the

1067
00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:28,290
gimbal or what have you it's in a UFO

1068
00:47:33,770 --> 00:47:30,230
you have seen something

1069
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:33,780
unidentified contact them I would be

1070
00:47:42,140 --> 00:47:38,610
selfish and say instead contact us no

1071
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:42,150
I'm sure they're doing a good job of you

1072
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:44,010
know again we have whether this is a

1073
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:45,930
misinformation campaign or not it has

1074
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:49,770
been in the news non-stop but outside of

1075
00:47:56,570 --> 00:47:52,800
the rumor mill and what's going on and

1076
00:47:58,430 --> 00:47:56,580
whoever if everyone says you know what

1077
00:47:59,180 --> 00:47:58,440
they say is who they are and all this

1078
00:48:02,870 --> 00:47:59,190
kind of good stuff

1079
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:02,880
we are approaching this with they are

1080
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:05,040
making waves and good stuffs happening

1081
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:06,900
at least in terms of like you said d

1082
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stigmatizing and

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about it so I look forward to the rest

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of the season I guess I'm interested to

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see in my opinion I'm guessing we're

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gonna have no real answers at the end of

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this like usual because because this is

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such a giant mystery so I don't know

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it'll be interesting to see how it's all

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wrapped up we're still several episodes

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away from that but we'll just have to

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keep watching it's it's fun and I look

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forward to you the next episode and and

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ultimately the finale to see where we

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where we wind up but I suspect more is

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coming oh yeah yeah we'll citizens as we

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wrap up this episode I invite you to

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come join us in the ROE clan of Facebook

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thoughts on the second episode of

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unidentified or anything else UFO

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and fellow rogue planets here Caleb

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Hanks for the show's intro and outro

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thanks again for hanging out with us

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today I'm Jason McClellan I'm Maureen

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Elsberry and I'm Shane herd do us a

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favour friends always treat the UFO

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subject with the cautious and

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responsible skepticism it deserves

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question everything have the courage to

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form your own opinions keep truth as the

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focus of your quest even if the truth

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conflicts with your opinions and of

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course stay strange